Category: Committees

  • Ad-hoc committee recommends 5A, 4A and 3A baseball use RPI for postseason next season

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    Baseball could be using an RPI system for postseason qualification in 2016. (Matt Mathewes/MVPSportsPics.com)

    AURORA — Baseball looks to be taking a significant step next season.

    On Thursday, an ad-hoc committee made up of representatives from classes 3A through 5A met at the CHSAA office to talk about postseason format. They ultimately recommended that the baseball committee adopt the use of a Ratings Percentage Index (RPI) formula to set the postseason fields for the 2016 season.

    The sport was already set to move to an RPI-based postseason format in 2017 as part of CHSAA’s move toward consistency in all postseason formats. But this special committee — which was set up last spring — didn’t want to wait through one more season. An RPI takes a team’s winning percentage into account, as well as the winning percentage of their opponents, and the winning percentage of their opponents’ opponents.

    Currently, baseball uses a much-maligned system based on Wild Card points, which award points for victories and defeats. The system’s many flaws were discussed ahead of, and during, the past two postseasons.

    Those flaws were discussed again during the ad-hoc meeting on Thursday.

    “We believe that this (move to RPI) will tighten down the challenges that we have had with Wild Card points in the past,” said CHSAA assistant commissioner Bert Borgmann, who administers baseball. “And it makes sense to go this direction, because we have had to tweak Wild Card points every year for the past few years due to inaccuracies from all aspects of that format that have really been somewhat troublesome.”

    The ad-hoc committee reviewed historical RPI data from the 2014 and 2015 seasons, and it showed very favorably compared to the Wild Card system. For example, 80 percent of teams seeded higher than their opponents in the RPI won games in the first round of district play — compared to 65 percent when seeded according to Wild Card points.

    The ad-hoc committee’s recommendations only apply to 5A, 4A and 3A for the 2016 season. The formats for 2A and 1A would not be changed next season.

    Specifically, the group recommended the baseball committee adopt the following:

    • League champions automatically qualify for the postseason.
    • The remaining spots to fill out the respective 32-team brackets in 5A, 4A and 3A will be filled based upon standing according to the RPI formula.
    • No out-of-state opponents will factor into the RPI formula.
    • There will be no specific modifier for inter-classification games, as it is already built into the base formula.

    Additionally, the ad-hoc committee recommended the following criteria be used for seeding:

    • Standing according to the RPI formula
    • Geography
    • Head-to-head matchups
    • Common opponents

    The baseball committee is set to meet on Nov. 17. Should that group adopt this recommendation, it would be forward to the Legislative Council for a vote. If passed there, these changes would go into effect immediately, meaning the 2016 season would be played with an RPI component set to decide postseason qualifiers.

    “The (ad-hoc) committee, which has a lot of Colorado baseball people on it, really took some time to explore what they felt would be the right way to approach a lot of the issues that were happening with the Wild Card points system, and the way the seeding came out,” Borgmann said. “What they have recommended, they believe, will correct that. And they believe the baseball committee will see this as the best way to go forward.”

    The recommendation to not include out-of-state opponents is a big consideration, but would still allow teams to play out-of-state games. Those games simply wouldn’t count toward the formula, and playing fewer games in the eyes of the formula would not harm a team as the RPI is based entirely on winning percentages.

  • 5A football will move to 16-team playoff field, waterfall alignment in 2016

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    (Ryan Casey/CHSAANow.com)

    LONE TREE — Big changes are ahead for Class 5A football. Beginning with the 2016 season, the classification will move to a 16-team playoff field, a 10-game regular season, and alignment will be set by a waterfall system.

    It means moving away from the current 32-team playoff field and nine-game regular season in 5A, as well as a new way of thinking about alignment, which is set right now — for the most part — by geography.

    These changes were made by the CHSAA football committee, which met ahead of the start of the All-School Summit at the Denver Marriott South on Monday. They voted to approve the June recommendations of an ad-hoc 5A football committee.

    “Big changes, yes,” said Mike Krueger, the chair of the football committee, “but it got unanimous support from the committee, and we got a lot of good feedback on the changes from around the state.”

    “There are a lot of positives to it,” Krueger added later. “I know there are going to be hiccups, but at the foundation, it’s really good for 5A football.”

    This latest meeting was the fourth the committee has held since last December. In addition, the group has conducted two direct surveys of member schools, and each committee member has served as a sounding board for input for the rest of state.

    At the crux of these changes is a modified Rating Percentage Index (RPI) system, which takes into account a team’s winning percentage, the winning percentage of a team’s opponents, and the winning percentage of the opponents of a team’s opponents.

    This is a change from the current Wild Card points system, which determines qualifiers in 5A. (That system will still be used for the 2015 season.)

    Already, Class 4A through 6-man has adopted using an RPI to determine postseason qualifiers — and 5A did the same on Monday morning for its 16-team field in 2016. Seven league champions will get automatic bids, and the top nine remaining teams according to the RPI will make the playoffs in 2016.

    The RPI is also at the heart of the move to a 16-team playoff field in 5A, as well as the waterfall system. When the football committee met in April, their aim was to standarize the playoff structures in all seven classifications. One glaring difference was the 32-team bracket in 5A.

    Since 2006, 5A has been the only class where more than 16 teams made the football playoffs. The change from 32 brings 5A in line with the rest of the classes — all but 6-man, which has an eight-team field, have 16-team tournaments.

    But 5A’s leagues, as currently aligned, sit unbalanced, and so simply cutting the bracket would not work.

    “When we started talking about (moving to a 16-team bracket), we kept hearing, ‘We’d go to 16, but the problem is the imbalance of the leagues,’” Krueger said.

    The waterfall alignment will balance the leagues, and the idea has been well received around the state.

    To set the waterfall alignment, teams will be ranked based upon their two-year average in the RPI. The top seven teams in that ranking will each be placed into seven separate leagues. From there, teams will be snaked into leagues. So, No. 8 will be placed into the same league as No. 7; No. 9 will be with No. 6; No. 10 with No. 5, and so on — until all teams are placed into a league.

    The expectation is that 5A will have 42 teams in the 2016-18 cycle, and so each league will have six teams.

    This waterfall system was made possible due to the close geographic proximity within 5A. Once realignment for the 2016-18 cycle is finalized this November, every school in 5A will be along the I-25 corridor — making the longest drive from one school to another roughly two hours.

    “You were going to travel for non-conference, anyway,” Krueger said. “So that’s just now a conference game, and I can still play my cross-town rival, but it’s just a non-conference game. So people may say, ‘Travel, travel, travel.’ The reality is that it’s the same amount of travel, and it could even possibly be less.”

    On Tuesday at the All-School Summit, athletic directors will break into classifications to talk about league alignment in football for 6-man through 4A.

  • Football committee wants to alter playoff structure; doesn’t support 6A proposal

    The football committee met on Tuesday. (Ryan Casey/CHSAANow.com)
    The football committee met on Tuesday at the CHSAA office. (Ryan Casey/CHSAANow.com)

    AURORA — The football committee met on Tuesday to discuss playoff format and alignment ahead of the 2016-18 two-year cycle.

    The majority of the meeting was a general top-level discussion about ideas and proposals. In the months to come, the committee will take those and drill down into the details.

    Tuesday’s meeting was the second six-hour meeting the committee has held on playoff formats and alignment since its annual December meeting. The first was in February.

    The group is looking at alignment in an entirely different way this cycle. They want, by and large, the schools to take it over and put themselves in leagues, much as they do in other sports, such as basketball.

    In recent years, the football committee has hammered out alignment on its own while taking input from the membership.

    “We’re trying to find more ways to create more shared decision-making,” said Mike Krueger, who chairs the football committee.

    The committee is also approaching league structure from a top-down approach. That is, they want to figure out playoff formats first, and then figure out the way alignment will best suit those formats.

    “They need to know: This is how we qualify, now let’s decide how to format our conferences,” said CHSAA assistant commissioner Harry Waterman, who administers football.

    “Whatever we decide,” said Krueger, the district athletic director of Aurora Public Schools, “it’s going to be what’s best for kids across the state in general.”

    These were the main topics of the day:

    • The committee wants to even out every playoff field to 16 teams. Currently, 6-man has an 8-team field, and 5A has a 32-team field, while 8-man, 1A, 2A, 3A and 4A all have 16 teams make the playoffs. However, a possibility remains that 5A would be cut from 32 to 24, instead of 32 to 16.
    • They also want to move to using a modified RPI to replace the Wild Card points system to determine a team’s relative strength. The modified RPI would take the following factors into account: a team’s winning percentage, their opponents’ winning percentage, their opponents’ opponents’ winning percentage, and a modifier based upon the classification of the opponent.
    • The group will give the current alignment to member schools for them to adjust and tweak as they see fit.
    • Each member of the committee will continue to meet with the membership around the state to gather input on postseason format and alignment.

    “When we walk into our meeting in December,” Krueger said, “we’re going to have a pretty dang good idea of what our playoff formats and alignment are going to look like.”

    Additionally, the following ideas were discussed:

    • The committee wants to explore bringing all seven championship games to one central location. Obviously, many logistics and hurdles would be in the way of this even becoming a possibility, but the committee decided to explore it before their next meeting this summer.
    • They want to look at bringing the 8-man playoff format to all classes. 8-man puts all league champions in the postseason field, then has a seeding committee pick qualifiers from thereon using a staggered method of considering each league’s No. 2 teams, No. 3s, No. 4s and so on.

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    Committee doesn’t support 6A proposal

    There was one very specific outcome on Tuesday: The group decided to not support the proposal from the Union Pacific League which seeks to add a Class 6A. That proposal is headed to the Legislative Council on Thursday.

    After a lengthy discussion, they came to the conclusion that the concept was good, but they saw too many holes in it. They would like to look at adding 6A at some point, but not right now, and want time to develop a polished plan.

    Some committee members were told by schools that the proposal could force them to cancel their junior varsity programs, or the suspend their programs entirely.

    Additionally, because the group has so many meetings and spends countless hours working on alignment, they felt it didn’t make sense to bypass the entire process, which is what the proposal did.

    “It has some good ideas,” Krueger said to the group, “but there’s a lot of discussion that needs to take place. The unintended consequences and ramifications of the proposal could be far-reaching, and we need time to explore them. That is why you have a committee.”

    Waterman added, “For the greater good of the whole state, we’re not ready for this right now. I do think it’s something we can look at in the future, but now’s not the time.”

  • Hockey committee recommends adding JV, changes to overtime rules

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    (Caden Colson/CadenColsonPhotography.com)

    AURORA — High school hockey in this state is growing in a number of ways, but what the sport’s committee did on Friday is perhaps the biggest indication: The group unanimously recommended the addition of junior varsity teams.

    The change will need to be approved by the Legislative Council in April. And, even if it does, the move won’t force programs to add a junior varsity team. Instead, it gives them the option to.

    “What I see is the opportunity for you to add a subvarsity program,” CHSAA assistant commissioner Bud Ozzello told the committee. “It doesn’t force you to do it.”

    If approved, programs will be allowed to field one varsity team and one subvarsity team.

    The change would potentially bring in two new members, as well. Yampah Mountain High School in Glenwood Springs wants to add a junior varsity team, but that is pending CHSAA membership. The school has a visit with CHSAA officials scheduled for late May.

    In addition, Crested Butte is considering adding a JV team.

    Currently, there is a non-CHSAA-sanctioned club league that offers JV-type teams an option to play. Erik Austin, a member of the hockey committee and the coach at Cheyenne Mountain, estimated that “27 or 28 teams” currently play in that league.

    “Philosophically, we have to grow the sport of hockey,” said Larry Bull, the district athletic director of Cherry Creek Schools, who also sits on the committee. “The high school piece, that’s what kids want. They want to wear the jersey. And I think we need to encourage and support them.”

    The approval of JV would set off a domino effect, of sorts. Because Colorado doesn’t currently offer JV hockey, the sport was afforded certain state adoptions outside of the rules of hockey set by the NFHS. Namely, the maximum roster size was 25 players, and they played 17-minute periods.

    Should JV be approved at Legislative Council, the maximum roster size will drop to 20 players. Additionally, the periods would be 15 minutes long — however, the hockey committee will ask to continue a state adoption to try to keep them at 17 minutes.

    The committee recommended that players be allowed to play a maximum of 72 periods during the regular season. This really would only apply to so-called “swing” players, or those that play varsity and junior varsity. Football has a similar rule for quarters allowed.

    Junior varsity teams will be allowed to play a maximum of 15 games. The hockey committee recommended that JV teams play 13-minute periods and only resurface the ice one time during the game.

    Overtime rule changes

    The hockey committee met at 10 a.m. Friday morning — or 12 hours after the six-overtime affair between Cherry Creek and Dakota Ridge in the semifinals ended on Thursday night. It meant that the postseason overtime procedures were fresh in the minds of the committee members.

    And so they decided to look at them. Currently, in the postseason, teams play continuous five-minute overtimes until a winner is decided.

    The committee recommended lengthening the overtime periods to eight minutes — the maximum allowed by the NFHS — and also moving to 4-on-4 hockey after two overtimes. The ice would be resurfaced after every two overtime periods.

    This change, too, will need to be approved along with the hockey report at the Legislative Council.

    The regular season overtime procedure would stay the same. That entails one five-minute overtime to decide a winner. If no one scores, the two teams tie.

    On Saturday, the day after the committee met, Cherry Creek and Monarch went three overtimes in the state title game.

    Notables

    • The new programs at Castle View and Fort Collins were approved by the committee. Castle View will begin next season and play in the Peak Conference, while Fort Collins will start in 2016-17, but hasn’t yet been placed in a conference. Castle View’s home games and practices will be at Colorado Sports Center in Monument.
    • One reason Fort Collins wasn’t placed into a conference is because the committee is looking at realignment ahead of the 2016-17 season. They want to move to four divisions instead of two conferences.
    • The committee recommended that teams be allowed to play with four-person officiating crews during the regular season, if they so desire. All postseason games are done with four-person crews, while most regular season games have three-person crews.
    • The dates for next season’s semifinals and championship are March 4-5, a Friday and Saturday, at the Budweiser Events Center. It’s possible the championship will be moved to a Monday due to conflicts with the Colorado Eagles’ schedule.
  • Swim and dive committee recommends unlimited entrants from schools in individual events

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    AURORA — The swimming and diving committee on Tuesday recommended that schools be allowed an unlimited number of entries into individual events at the state meets.

    Currently, schools are only allowed four entrants per event, even if more hit the qualifying time. That limit is based on an NFHS rule. However, a recent interpretation allows states to form their own adoptions on the rule — which opened the door for the swimming committee’s recommendation on Tuesday.

    This change will need to be approved by the Board of Directors, and at the Legislative Council in April.

    “The focus of this is on high school and participants,” said Bethany Brookens, CHSAA assistant commissioner in charge of swimming and diving.

    Rule 3.1.1 of the swimming rules specifically states that “each team be permitted a maximum of four entries in an individual event and one team in a relay event.” However, that rule also includes the language “unless a conference or league determines otherwise” — which has been interpreted to expand to states, as well.

    If approved in April, swim teams will be allowed an unlimited number of entries into individual events — provided those swimmers meet the qualifying time, of course. Teams would still be limited to one team entry in relays.

    Additionally, a team would only be permitted to advance four swimmers or divers to the finals of a given individual event. Because of that, team scoring would be unaffected.

    Also unchanged is the individual limit on swimmers. They will still only be allowed to swim in two individual events and two relays at the state meet.

    An independent group examined data from the 2014-15 Class 5A season and determined that roughly 20 swimmers and divers would have been added to the state meet due to the change. A total of 550 swimmers and divers participated in the 5A meet two weeks ago. It is expected that an even smaller number of athletes would be added in 4A.

    One concern is that the qualification times — which are set based upon the expected number of entrants and heats per event — would be negatively affected and create a more “elite” meet. However, the committee decided that qualifying times would only be set based upon the top four finishers from a team.

    The committee initially talked about the change in 2014, then revisited it with another in-depth conversation on Tuesday.

    If approved, the change would go into effect during the 2015-16 season for both boys and girls.

    The swimming committee also recommended that swimmers and divers compete in a minimum of four meets — exclusive of league and/or conference meets — during the regular season in order to be eligible for the state meet. That, too, needs to be approved by the Legislative Council.